政治、金牌、好声音

政治人物，我期望他们有操守，有担当，有勇气，有谋略，有远见，有人情味。

我没有期望政治人物有一把好声音，更不奢望政治人物有运动员坚持到底的精神。

对于运动员，我期望他们坚韧不拔，死不罢休、不认输。

但我不理会他的政治立场，他的人格如何，有无绯闻，更不理他能挣多少银子，他会不会赢。

好声音，我要的是能触动我心的声音，不管他是沙哑、悠扬、是静还是动，更不管他人格如何、姓左还是姓右。

那些大言不惭，自我膨胀的，对号入座的，任人摆布的所谓的知青愤青，还有那些不当别人是人的所谓＂大大＂者，对我来说都是可怜虫。一边告诉全世界他们视名利为粪土，却在他们的字里行间偷偷的，闪闪烁烁的告诉大家他们原来都是名利的奴隶，为保地位不惜踩着别人尸体搏上位卡位的

软体单细胞


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Angel

Say what you like, but she is angel for those who know her. Sabrina Yeap, founder of Furry Friends' Farm, passed away last week, left some 200 dogs, 150 cats behind.

Sabrina Yeap with Kuning

Perhaps her mission to this world is completed, and she returned to where she belongs. Though we are sad that she is no longer with us, but we believe that her spirit for not putting a life to sleep will spread wider.

We are not in control of deciding who should be on earth, likewise we have no rights to take away another life.

Furry Friends' Farm is still operating, Sabrina's successors pledged to continue. For those who want to lend an helping hand, Google Furry Friends' Farm, or find from Facebook, you will get their latest updates.

No matter what is your contribution, money, effort, food, clothes, etc., your effort is going to save someone of whom like you, citizen of this planet Earth.

Visit the farm, if you can, or spread the news.

网络大侠

原来还真的有纹有路，不体会还会傻傻的认定大侠们就是救世主：

在面书贴了此文，意犹未尽，这里再贴

大侠？哈哈！把人推出去送死，自己却＂满腹悲情＂，＂风萧萧兮易水寒，壮士一去兮不复返＂的姿态说三道四，又不见得他静悄悄的去＂买颗子弹＂为民除害？又何必吵吵嚷嚷的这个应该怎么做，那个应该怎么做的像个年迈的老太婆？

那些去教人家送死的，自己先去啦！怕死？多多借口？

那不如在家看孩子不说话，没人会说你哑！


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独中

最近读到华团、华教组织要求政府批准在关丹建独中一事，简直比周星星还来得无厘头。

为何？

第一，这些组织放话，若国阵政府不批关丹建独中，就会呼吁华社在来届大选不投国阵。这类的话，让我觉得这些所谓的华社精英、华教栋梁反映了五千年酱缸文化的精髓，发扬周星星的无厘头文化。

第二，所谓的华团、华教组织，他们支持的，是华文独中，还是母语教育？

对我来说，争取增建独中，只不过是要满足某些人的心愿，对整个教育政策根本没有帮助，而且，还得发烂砸似的用选票来要挟。只求治标，无心治本，就算是关丹独中批了，接下去应该如何？是不是每当大选前就来个同样的戏码？

若有心要解决问题，为何不从大方向下手？既然都用上了要挟，为何不做件大单的、可以一劳永逸、不用天天怨当权者企图消灭母语教育？

若要坚持母语教育，就得向朝野双方摊牌：

不能同意一视同仁的对待各源流学校，包括小学和中学的，就用选票把他们打下南中国海，永不超生。

为何还要为承认统考、增建独中、增建华小的这些事吵个几十年？老兄，你们到底有多少个十年来和当权的玩这个游戏？

当然，如果是为了其他原因，又另当别论。至于是什么其他原因，大家自己人，无需说得太白。

真相，在心里

有时候，你觉得你看到的和你感觉的不一致，你不知道是周遭环境影响你看到的、听到的，还是你自己在误导你。

我不能告诉你应该怎么做，可是我想告诉你，我会如何做。

第一，我坚持每个人都会犯错，包括我在内。我不相信人是上帝，从来不信。
第二，我认为犯错不可耻，犯错了却找代罪羔羊转移视线才是可耻。
第三，除了别有用心的，人人都应该问问自己的良心，是否有错。

可惜许多人，为了维护＂组织＂的尊严而不惜一切的牺牲他人，甚至战友的感受，这些人，到处都有，为了＂伟大＂理想而故意忽略他人，而他人的权益，不就是这些人口口声声要争取的吗？

以大局为重，就可以隐瞒事实，就可以选择性的牺牲他人，为的是堂堂皇皇的理由：大局为重。

可是却没有好好的想，事情存在不因为这些掩饰而烟消云散。这类处理事情的手法和居心，又和那些杀死明福沙白尼的凶手有何分别？


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Protests

Sometime protest for the sake of protest brings you nowhere. For every protest, there must be consistency and determination. Protest must be result oriented, not just creating sparks, then let it die.

Yes, you care of something, and that something must be meaningful to you to some extent that you are willing to sacrify your time, and tell me, how much time do you have to go on with ever growin list of protests that you want to take part or care about?

Oh! Yes! I agree, you must voice out, but what is the priority? Where is the focus?

When the same everyone is rushing for every protests trying to create some wave often ended with ill effect.

What is important? I bet most of you cannot tell off hand what is really important. If you are not able to, how would you be able to champion whatever cause with full concentration and make it effective?

When everyone running around tell the world that you are defender of A-z, do you think you can catch attention of those who probably be confused by what you are trying to do?

When you have press coverage you claim victory that the media covered your event. When media did not give you what you want they are lap dogs of the regime.

So what is your benchmarks, of KPIs if you don't understand what benchmark is all about?

Of what I have seen, it's just like having Korean cuisine with many side dishes that you have probably forgotten what is your main cause.

Have you lost? I hope not. But again, what do you really want?

Carnival and limelight? Perhaps.

一群乌八！

这是对那些做一点，以为自己做最多，到处在当事人背后说是非的王八。

UPS 是我建议，我去处理。有任何疑问可以直接问我，有何须在背后放暗箭？

是我没提供完整的过程给波波，不关她事怎么又要牵扯她在内？

是不是你们上了709就最伟大，就可以背后无情批判，但却选择不直接对我说？

不要忘记，说的没出钱，也没贡献。还有，从头到尾我都说我先自己买来确定，阿公钱从来没到我手。

东西买了，我们改装了，在店主面前将Buzzer去掉，可以无声，也省电。过后因为电源开关有问题，又抬过去Tony家去修。然后我们就在昨天下午一起测试。

为了不浪费时间，在测试同时也断断续续充电，希望昨晚可以交付。

我们用3台电话充电器，一台手提电脑，测试方式如下：

手机充电器，规格：5V 500mA输出。

手提电脑充电器，规格：16.5V，3.65A

第一次，耗时3分钟，接上一台手机充电器，手机充电器和UPS插头的neutral线搭上电流表，开电源，开UPS，电流耗大约100mA。

第二个三分钟：关完全部，开UPS，接手机充电器，电流耗大约95mA。

第三个三分钟：关完全部，开UPS，接手机充电器，接上电话，耗约430mA

第4个3分钟，接上2台手机充电器，手机充电器和UPS插头的neutral线搭上电流表，开电源，开UPS，电流耗为100mA和110mA

第5个三分钟：关完全部，开UPS，接2台手机充电器，电流耗各约95mA和98mA

第6个三分钟：关完全部，开UPS，接2台手机充电器，接上2台电话，各耗约430mA，和480mA

两台充电器和Nokia手机都是同一型号，得出如此结果应该是第2台充电器能耗较高。因为没有太离谱，就当是元件和生产时间有误差。

第7个3分钟，接上3台手机充电器，手机充电器和UPS插头的neutral线搭上电流表，开电源，开UPS，电流耗为100mA，110mA，99mA

第8个三分钟：关完全部，开UPS，接3台手机充电器，电流耗各约95mA，98mA，96mA

第9个三分钟：关完全部，开UPS，接3台手机充电器，接上3台电话，各耗约430mA，480mA，465mA

第3台nokia基本上得出的数据也差不远，应该无误。

应该另外补充：接第三台充电器时，我们试了2种Extension，一种有灯，一种普通的。

有灯的每颗发亮时耗30~80mA不等，所以决定不用。

整个测试的最大问题是没人知道这台UPS有环保Green功能，今晚在独立广场充相机电池才遇到5分钟自动关机。盒子没写，只有说明书有一句提到有环保功能，不过没说明什么时候断电。

因为我们以3分钟为一段测试。一般的情形下，一分钟的读数已经足够，但Tony和我都认为3分钟能给我们比较合理的平均值，太长时间不行是因为我必须当天下午到PJ处理公事，不能待太久。

不过整个测试也耗了大约1小时45分，因为间中有讨论，检查结果再核对。

然后到PJ时我不能充电，也不肯定ups电源是否充满，因为第一次充电需要6小时。

在和occupydataran电话联系后，他们认为因为前晚的意外，最好昨天看看情况再说。我也说了需要确保电源充足。

昨晚回来后，充电到今天出门，共14小时，应该满电。

下午到独立广场，要交给他们时，他们建议晚上才领。

当时发了讯给律师公会，问说他们是否能够允许给予方便充电，没回应。

在独立广场看到附近有教堂，和occupydataran取得共识后，我就去教堂问充电的事，那时离occupydataran的记者会还有10分钟，他们不便和我一起，就自己去教堂问。

遇到教堂书局负责人，询问后她说必须和教堂理事谈。理事当时有事处理，我就和书局负责人谈天等。负责人当然和我谈关于基督的事，我们等着，谈了大约20分钟。

理事忙完了，下来接见我时，开始的态度是教会没有先例。

我当然也表明为何希望教会帮忙给予方便充电，谈了15分钟，理事说他必须向神父请示，神父不巧出门了。我要到office，就请理事电话通知，他答应最迟星期六给予神父的决定。

回到独立广场交代了与教会会谈的结果，赶到KLCC附近的office，已经4点半。六点就急着回去dataran要把东西交割。

到了dataran，他们说现在还不需要，迟点会找我。

我就等到大约9点半，终于交付后，他们要充相机电池，就打开使用。当时波波来电说不舒服，我叫他先回，就想着离开去喂猫。

不经意看到相机充电灯灭了，以为有人关机，就开机再来。然后坐着观察。发觉UPS5分钟后自动关机时，第一时间联络Tony，问可能的状况。

决定把UPS带到tony家去时，遇到阿包，发了些牢骚，就赶着去。

波波来电，就请他喂猫，我去解决Ups问题。

这段时候，认为应该对大家有个交代，就贴FB告知状况。

到Tony在pandan indah家，进了他的工作时室，拆机，两个人看着电板，没有线路图，只得靠两人对电子元件的理解，分析电板。

大约10分钟，给我们找到一个两个人都认为是节能的线路，有了共识，tony下手，两下，就解决。

然后我们接上2个40w的灯泡，连续测试7分钟，再来一个7分钟确定，把UPS装回，再赶回去dataran。

间中我们已经商量了如果解决不了问题，plan B 是什么。

回到dataran，正在开会，等了一会，不能再等，就交给其中一个，测试了8分钟无误，匆匆忙忙回家，家里的狗不要波波带他们走街，加上下雨，我必须要尽快回家。

当中见到美凤和可人，谈了有关如何替ups充电的安排，细节不表。

那些背后放箭的，请继续犯贱，若对号入座，请便。

话再说一遍，你们乱说话也得认清到底应该针对谁，有得冤就冤那和反贪会有何不同，那你们有啥资格评论反贪会？

还有，革命没成功，你们这些就只会学舌，专对付＂同志＂，难怪国阵这么烂都不倒，不就是有你们这些做少少、呱呱叫说自己多伟大多伟大的弄翻自己的船？

要骂架，你们不够班；做金手指？你们不配；

有本事就告诉我428警方会动员若干，用什么策略？告诉我明天najib会不会和学生会面交流？

玩这些？提鞋你们都不配！




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The Occupy Dataran revisited

Frankly, I do not know much about the Occupy Dataran, yet I think the movement is a phenomena of soul searching and reviewing our current state of democracy.

The Occupy Dataran first appeared and occupied the Dataran Merdeka since last July, a few weeks ahead of the much publicized Occupy Wall Street.
The movement is loosely formed by individuals who have concern over certain issues, or simply enjoying weekly gatherings in the Dataran Merdeka.
It is interesting to observe their processes, their thoughts, the way they discuss, which can be small to some but important for the person who brought it up, or as serious as discussing national or international issues.
There's no leader in the movement, everyone is equal and are free to bring any issue forward for discussion.
Occupy Dataran works on consensus of all, if any one of the participating member in their assembly block a motion, then motion will not turn to action.
Another interesting point is that the movement does not have so called membership, or one must attained a certain qualification to join their assembly. You can walk in and join, listen, participate in debate or discussion, or you can be a bystander, it is entirely up to you as an individual. The movement does not impose any restrictions to anyone.
I have recently read tweets concerning the movement, some simply ignore, some said it is too idealistic and can never implement in a large scale.
Those commented, I do hope they spend some time observing on site, talk to them, see and hear with your own eyes and ears.
I am not sure if this a model of future society, but it brings me back to the ancient Greece, pretty much the same feeling.
If you are looking for something new, try the Occupy Dataran movement, there's no barrier, just like the Dataran Merdeka.
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占据独立广场和废除高教贷款二三四

什么是占据独立广场？

占据运动是草根运动，也是群众运动。

为何要占据？

占据，是一种象征，象征草根要向权贵夺回自主权。

想知道更多有关占据独立广场运动的资料，游览 占据独立广场

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废除高教贷款运动，是由学生所发起，争取免费大专教育的运动。

一般人想法，或主流媒体制造的现象，都认为学生志在为自己打算，希望籍此运动，一笔勾销他们的贷款，这对发起运动的学生来说，是有欠公平的。

不否认有些在籍学生，甚至一些前学生，希望能一举取消他们的贷款偿还，但这些不过是一些心存侥幸的想法，说的白一点，是自私的想法。

废除高教贷款运动，是基于国家财务管理不当，大事挥霍，学生的论点是：倘若国家可以挥霍，为何不将之用于教育。

高教学费没有因为私立大专林立，而变得合理。相反的，高教学费年年增长，无论是在国立或私立大专求学，学生在没有其他的选择下，比如得不到奖学金等，只能向高教基金贷款。

举个例子，槟城的国立理科大学财政预算竟然比槟城州政府的财政预算来得高，因为开销庞大，所以学费也得高涨。不论如何，一间国立大学开销比所在地的州政府开销来得高这么样都说不过去。

当政府允许国立大专涨学费时，私立大专更不用说，当然比国立更高。

另一个令人诟病的，是政府的政策令得学生毕业后无用武之地，因为学习的，和市场需要的，是两回事。

学生毕业后发觉原来自己本科没有市场，就算有，起薪也不高。而高教贷款偿还就像超重的包袱。

在这样的情形下，就出现了学生不偿还贷款的状况，而拖欠的数额远远超过收回的贷款，当局在这方面是乎没有考量，也没有应对方案。

话说回头，这一切，说明了当局基本上没把办教育当成是一项严肃、重要的项目，而且在管理方面差强人意，之后承担的除了贷款的学生，还有高教基金的资金来源，最大的资金来源，就是公积金。

当大部分的贷款收不回来时，公积金承担最大的风险。政府可以说收不回的贷款由政府承担，就是说明纳税的，不管是直接或间接的纳税人必须为追不回的贷款买单。所以左右，最后都是你我承担。

那么，高教贷款的最大受益人是谁？就是国立大专的供应商，和私立大专的投资者。

既然如此，高教贷款对我们，对学生来说，都是噩梦，既然是噩梦，为何还要抱住不放？




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Why I valued OccupyDataran movement

Last night, I told my wife, we need to show support to those who have been occupying Dataran Merdeka since last July 2011.
The occupiers have since without failed, even with interventions from the Authority, stayed in the Dataran Merdeka every weekends.
I salute their determination, their focus on issues, ie the people must gain their control back on matters affecting their everyday life and not by the bereaucrats and influencial businesses.
However, the society in general ignoring the existence of Occupy Dataran, some even laughed at them claiming that only the mad and retarded will act in such.




I see it otherwise. These people are just normal people, they too have to work hard to earn their living, but they choose to express their dissatisfaction by consistently repeating the same every week, without fail.




It is their determination and courage that we should appreciate, whether you agree with their cause, it is not easy to have it weekly, and they are not rich guys looking for excitement, they mean what they said, and they did it, and still doing.
They need no fund for their cause, but if you wish to donate, by all means. they are working on shoestring budget individually that they have to squeeze from their earnings.
But they do need food, drink, and now tent contributions.
If you can, pay them a visit. If you are not prepare to bring anything, it's ok, go there, speak to them, you'll be surprise they are not blind follower, they know what they want, and what they are doing.
Or perhaps, you may just want to join them atleast for a night.




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Lynas

How many Lynas can you stop?

When Himpunan Hijau announced their plan to march from KLCC, and carry coffin to the Australian High Commissions, before joining Bersih 3.0 at the Dataran Merdeka, I was kind of stunt with Himpunan Hijau's decision.

Granted Himpunan Hijau can do what they wanted, with the sole purpose of getting rid of Lynas, but why must there be a side dish when the purpose of having Bersih 3.0 is to have the best ever main course?

Can we ask ourselves a simple question:

How many Lynas can we kill? When a simple solution to the problem is to get rid of those wanted to stay in power yet ignoring your calls?

You can kill Lynas today, with massive show-off of your strength, but can you kill all Lynas alike mushrooming everywhere in the country, one after another?

Then why not give a killer punch and get rid of those obstacles, instead?


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There must be something more than just the truth of Teoh Beng Hock's death

I do not agree when some said it is customary for the Authority to cover up or protect the law enforcers, on cases which clearly the law enforcers are at fault, such as Teoh Beng Hock and Sabani's death.

Both of them died under the care of the MACC, both of their cases were somehow twisted even to the extent of defying existing Laws, to ensure that Pandora's box is sealed tightly.

I do not think that those in power are not keen to have these cases cleared with truth revealed. this will help the ruling regime in the upcoming General Election.

Then, what is the motive of covering up the truth, protecting suspected officers ,to the extent that the ruling regime may weaken support which is already deteriorating?

Something must be big enough, big enough to send the ruling regime to hell, if truth is uncovered, not because the truth of both cases, but the key in law enforcement officers that form a perpetual protection to whatever they do, even knowing they are doing wrong, i.e. taken someone else's life.

Now, what is the key? Why must ruling regime willing to forego some votes, even some seats, in exchange for truth not to be revealed.

This is clearly not ignorance, it is calculated risk to ensure truth is buried deep enough to ever see the light.




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Lynas is safe, just like Durex claimed their condom is safe

I have to agree that Lynas is safe, like Durex claimed their condom is safe.

But I cannot agree that rare earth ore from Australia, chemical used for the refinery process, and waste as the by product of the refinery process is safe.

Much like Durex cannot guarantee that their condom will never break.

For broken Durex condom, your damage is limited to accidental birth of your child.

For broken Lynas, it will claim thousands of habitants' life surrounding the area for thousands of years.

I would like to share the following documentary, "The Battle of Chernobyl" here.

Watch it carefully, especially comments from top Russian nuclear scientist to the then leader of Soviet Union, Gorbachev, claiming that the Chernobyl nuclear plant is 100% safe.

Does this ring your bell that some nuclear experts here claimed the same?

Yes, one may argue Lynas is not nuclear power plant. But Durex is neither nuclear power plant, and when it fails you, you had it.

Isn't it?


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If Lynas is sincere

if Lynas is sincere, it should relocate its corporate HQ to Malaysia, then operate the refinery in West Australia.

No infrastructure? You can always set up a plant near port Freemantle, so no need to ship rare earth ore to Kuantan to process.

No water? Hey! You mean Australia is so bad that there's no enough water supply in Freemantle?

No upstream industries? We can alway ship you whatever chemical that you can find in Kuantan, no issue, we can also sell you cheap, definitely cheaper in terms of weight as compare to the ore, hence shipping cost.

Tax break? Why not you apply in your home country then? I believe the Australian government, who wanted to control world rare earth supply, will be more than happy to do so.

350 jobs? You can always hire our brave souls who are willing to work for you, or you can create 350 jobs in Australia, your choice.

So bring your HQ here, put your refinery there, and we will trust you do good for us

So I'm telling you to buy Malaysian products

Below are some of the Australian products that you can easily find alternatives, mostly made in Malaysia.

I'm telling you to buy Malaysian, don't get me wrong, OK?

1Care, who are those our government cares?

I read the post from #taknak1care on Facebook, lead me to search briefly articles on Thailand's Universal Healthcare scheme.

I just want to do a simple comparison between the 2 countries on GDP and population, which is relevant to allocation of healthcare budget. To start with:

Country	GDP 2010(USD billion)	Population 2010
Malaysia	237.80	28,401,017
Thailand	318.85	69,122,234

What I am trying to show here is, given GDP over population, Malaysia has higher ratio, which means if tax are the same for both countries, Malaysian government would have collected more tax income than Thailand.

If the Malaysian government grumbling about not able to sustain high healthcare cost therefore 1Care is to ease the government burden, then we should ask if whether tax collected by the Malaysian government is spent wisely or otherwise.

Or it is just another proof that the current administration even more corrupted than the well-known corruption in Thailand that Thailand can still afford 30Baht healthcare project (see below), whereas we need to pay 10% of our income monthly to sustain our healthcare system.

Furthermore, Thailand's Universal healthcare scheme is not mandatory, citizen join the scheme will be given an identity allowing them to enjoy general healthcare, those who did not join have to foot their own medical bills.

This make me wonder what has gone wrong with the current administration?

Thailand's Universal Healthcare scheme

except from the above:

The majority of health care services in Thailand is delivered by the public sector, which includes 1,002 hospitals and 9,765 health stations. Universal health care is provided through three programs: the civil service welfare system for civil servants and their families, Social Security for private employees, and the Universal Coverage scheme theoretically available to all other Thai nationals. Some private hospitals are participants in these programs, though most are financed by patient self-payment and private insurance.

The Ministry of Public Health (MOPH) oversees national health policy and also operates most government health facilities. The National Health Security Office (NHSO) allocates funding through the Universal Coverage program. Other health-related government agencies include the Health System Research Institute (HSRI), Thai Health Promotion Foundation ("ThaiHealth"), National Health Commission Office (NHCO), and the Emergency Medical Institute of Thailand (EMIT). Although there have been national policies for decentralization, there has been resistance in implementing such changes and the MOPH still directly controls most aspects of health care.

Thailand introduced universal coverage reforms in 2001, becoming one of only a handful of lower-middle income countries to do so. Means-tested health care for low income households was replaced by a new and more comprehensive insurance scheme, originally known as the 30 baht project, in line with the small co-payment charged for treatment. People joining the scheme receive a gold card which allows them to access services in their health district, and, if necessary, be referred for specialist treatment elsewhere. The bulk of finance comes from public revenues, with funding allocated to Contracting Units for Primary Care annually on a population basis. According to the WHO, 65% of Thailand's health care expenditure in 2004 came from the government, while 35% was from private sources.[4] Although the reforms have received a good deal of criticism, they have proved popular with poorer Thais, especially in rural areas, and survived the change of government after the 2006 military coup. Then Public Health Minister, Mongkol Na Songkhla, abolished the 30 baht co-payment and made the UC scheme free. It is not yet clear whether the scheme will be modified further under the coalition government that came to power in January 2008.[5][6][7]

苏丹街：与大米的面书对话（2）

继续燃烧：

大米

Chia Chin Yau 說了那麼多，其實我蠻泄氣的。沒有人罵我，小事，但是很多人選擇忽視，卻是我最難受的。我還是看到面子書上一片清一色的好可惜啊老屋被拆了。全部都是藝術家。唉。

Chia Chin Yau

看到未来的，永远是最孤独、最痛苦的。这些年，我已经经历了不少。话说了，人们有选择听或不听，让他们去吧。

Chia Chin Yau

我看了echo 那里的留言。在某个层次我同意Echo的看法，不过我觉得把苏丹街独立起来，对事情没有帮助。

问题有三个：

捷运是否势在必行？如果将捷运的投资放在重组和重新规划公车制度，会不会更好？

就算救了苏丹街，而不理其它被征用民宅，是否就是我们所要的？

救了苏丹街后，接下来如何让苏丹街回复当年的环境？是要恢复叶亚来时代的，还是二战时代的，还是我们年轻时代的，还是功成身退，一切照旧？

有影响力的可以登高一呼，呼了之后要如何？还是让它船到桥头？

当每个人满腔热血时，其实就是最危险的时候。

最后一个问题：说是古迹不能拆，说是我的回忆也拆不得，不就是说建起来的建筑，统统拆不得？今天的新房子，就是下一代的童年回忆，这笔帐如何算？

大米

捷運是必要的。但是否必得在那個地方建站，有待商榷。如果徵用最終勢在必行，我覺得應該給業主更好的賠償，然後安排租戶遷去政府廉價屋，同時，可以趁機整頓哪兒的追龍者和瘋子，把他們安排到戒毒所或精神病院。至於保留下來不受影響的，可以由當地業主和居民成立委員會，並在中華大會堂和其他藝術工作者的建議下，看看能怎樣改造那一帶，成為真正有特色的旅遊點。

白頭，請把我這段話update在你的blog。謝謝。

Chia Chin Yau

当地已经有2大捷运站，有没有需要再来一个？捷运从市郊进入市区衔接现有的路线是否已经足够？

问题待解答

大米

那邊並不需要捷運站。我的意思是說，如果要硬來，也請給人家一個好價錢，其他的也做到好好看看的。

Chia Chin Yau

问题症结其实就是：需不需要再来一个捷运站？如果不是建站，那绕道不就解决问题了吗？把古迹摆上台后，对方来个：没有经过鉴定的建筑，不能称为“古迹”，那不是什么都没了？

大米

白頭，其實你覺得那是古跡嗎？我覺得只是老屋而已。關帝廟，陳氏書院和印度廟那幾個，才是一定要保留的東西。

Chia Chin Yau

如果是叶亚来时代建的建筑，结构完好的，应该保留。为什么？因为这类店屋的设计，影响了东南亚的店屋结构，特点是五脚基，屋内仿大陆四合院的设计改良，就是房子中间有个天井。

问题：要保留多少间？

我住过这类房子，是我童年的全部

大米

這個暫時無法回答。因為我不懂。等我明天去找書研究先。

喔，這樣一說，我知道是哪些了。我祖父祖母在布先的老家，就是這一類。現在是我叔叔一家在住。

苏丹街－与大米的面书对话

对于苏丹街34间面临被拆让路给捷运的事件，我和大米谈了一些，如下：

Chia Chin Yau

怎么搜索都找不到在捷运征地之前有人已经发起将苏丹街列为古迹的文章。只是想知道如果真有此事，不被接受的理由是什么？而争取的团体或人有没有持续

大米

或者向中華大會堂或華社資料中心那邊查詢，他們應該有完整資料。網上資料有時候未必足夠。

Chia Chin Yau

Thanks. Do you have any idea whether someone took it up well before MRT issue raised?

大米

我也想不起。我幫你問下張景雲。他應該會知道。

Chia Chin Yau

Thanks. Very interested to find out when people realizing, even if only realized now, what is the plan to revive and preserve the historical values. And is it only Jalan sultan that is supposed to be preserved, or the entire old town area

大米

問了張景雲，他一直對古跡保護課題有關注，他說之前沒有。不過他建議你可以去華社資料研究中心看這些課題的剪報。

Chia Chin Yau

Thanks a lot. I am just trying to prove a point: if there's no MRT route be there over existing buildings, am I right to say no one really care what is happening in Jalan Sultan?

I will do the research within these 2 weeks

大米

張生是研究檳城古跡保存的。他說KL的古跡保存之前只是一般性提起而已。

Chia Chin Yau

Your input is valuable for my basis to look into this. Thanks, you've been very helpful

大米

不客氣。我的不滿只是，很多人之前並不愛護茨廠街蘇丹街，好年也不見得有來一次光顧，然後現在突然人人都是捍衛者了，這真叫我這個一天到晚在那頭鑽的人，情何以堪。以前不珍惜，沒有幫忙推動那邊的經濟活動，現在快要沒有了，才知道失去的痛苦。唉。

Chia Chin Yau

老老实实，那34间房子，有哪一间你对它有感觉？我的问题是：如果以古迹为理由反对征地，bukit bintang那批被征用的就是活该？

大米

老實說一句：我沒有感覺。雖然我很喜歡去那一帶。現在那帶都幾乎荒廢了，癮君子，尿味沖天，誰之過？這些站在前端的人，以前根本不在乎這個地方，我以前每次去那邊，總會很多人跟我說，哎唷你去茨廠街那帶做甚麼，很亂水的，東西又貴。但事實並非如此啊！說這些話的人，以前對它有偏見，現在倒好，全部成了捍衛前鋒。簡直就是大笑話。

站在政治角度，政府有議程。站在商業角度，我覺得沒有錯。最大的爭議點是，那一帶的經濟活動發展實在很糟糕，也沒有多少人願意以發展古跡為大前提，保護那些建築，並且同時間將它好好發展吸引遊客。整個地方，就是追龍者天堂。我每次經過那邊，都要按著鼻子才敢走過，而且還要左看右看有沒有奇怪的人跟在後面，雖然這麼多年來是沒有甚麼事情發生。搞成這樣，这些华团的所谓关注者，之前有没有尽过他们对那一带的努力？

Chia Chin Yau

我反对征地，是因为有替代路线，而且是强行动用征地法令来为私人企业开路，而不是为了大众利益。

大米

对。那是政治议程。说实在问心一句，我们只能尽力发声，你以为政府会care吗？不会的。

我share你这贴。大家讨论下。因为我个人对这事件的观点和别人不太一样。尤其是对last minute so called suporters的反感。

Chia Chin Yau

为何同一批人为何没有为Kampong Baru重建计划站出来反对？

大米

可以理解啦。不用說的那麼白。很多事情，种族心态还是很重的。不需要问为什么，心照。所以这有又扯回为什么我坚决不要送儿子去独中的原因，就是我不希望他以后变成这些种族优越感至上的人。我们是地球人，不是什么特别优越的华人还是什么人。在宇宙中，你什么都不是。。。（神婆大米发作中。。）

还有一个大家比较忌讳的问号，我见似乎没有人提过，我说说吧。对，苏丹街是很多人的回忆，但是那些被征用的店铺，是人家的个别产业，技术上来说和我们无关。假设，我是说假设，以及假设业主的回忆是可以用钱来摆平的话，你认为还是如此局面吗？我是说假设赔偿金是比原来议定的多很多倍，五倍，十倍，你认为还有多少人坚持？你认为这些楼宇的业主都是如此神圣吗？当那边的经济已经一滩死水，没有多少人来光顾，并抵不住发展的洪流，你认为别人如果有非常好的赔偿，还会死抓住楼宇不放吗？问心一句，如果你是业主，你会怎么样？我不是鼓吹不清高或不捍卫古迹（又来了，多么难以扛上的沉重字眼！），如果赔偿金是现在的无倍以上，你卖不卖？如果是这样，捍卫古迹的事件簿也不存在了既然你的钱给得不够我要的多，就和你玩到底吧！还能冠上捍卫民族尊严的名号，一举数得！这些，有人敢说吗？还是刺中了心底话，没有人好意思说？

Chia Chin Yau

我虽然没你去那么频，可是那里的大街小巷，我都时不时去走走。记得当年制作花纵的影片时，和颂勤、碧清、俊麟等在那里寻找场景的时光，历历在目。

大米

我现在去得比较少，因为工作portfolio有变，星期五整天不能早回。但一个月去一次还是有的。早阵子我的portfolio没有增加之前，我每个星期五下班后都去，风雨不改。

Chia Chin Yau

同意。顺便提一提当年叶亚来在茨厂街、苏丹街、谐街、思思街等的147间店屋，是不是也应该保存？如果应该，请问是那147间？

大米

哈哈，那些早就没有啦。改天借你一本王军写的城记，是写捍卫北京古迹的事件的，最后北京还是抵挡不住发展的洪流，很多古建筑，都没了。

Chia Chin Yau

其实我在很努力的想，在苏丹街这些被征的房子，有多少间是叶亚来重建吉隆坡时建的？还是他们只是二战前的建筑？还是有一些是战后建的？

大米

kinokuniya英文部那邊應該有幾本是說這個的。有空去找找看。

Chia Chin Yau

总结一句：我反对用征地法令强行征地而没有合理赔偿。我反对在有替代路线的情形下坚持需要征有关土地。我也反对政府以发展为名征地来给私人企业。我更不排除在捷运建成后腾出来的土地被倒卖，是不是古迹，不是重点，因为一直以来，人们都让该区自生自灭，若不是征地，谁会理会那些老店到底代表什么？

Chia Chin Yau

我把这段对话挂上我的部落格，ok？

大米

非常同意你最後那句：若不是徵地誰會理會那些老店到底代表甚麼？這句話，是整個事件的精華所在。只是，我說了，很多人心照，不好意思說出口。

Echo 许慧珊，有時間的話，發表一下意見。我是指對我們的的觀點。

那段話？我的話？沒有問題。你知道我做人坦蕩蕩，寫得出來就歡迎大家貼。過不了自己那關的話我是不寫的。

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在大米的面书墙上，她写了这一段：

蘇丹街徵地事件，究竟有沒有人認真思考過，源頭是賠償金不足夠，還是真的正氣凜然地捍衛古跡？徵地事件發生之前，你有認真熱愛過這一帶嗎？還是根本就不在乎這個地方？還是大家說，捍衛古跡！你也不得不捍衛古跡？如果你從來沒有在乎過它，甚至很少會拜訪那一帶，你的捍衛，是捍衛甚麼呢？那些被徵用的老店，和你有實際關係嗎？不徵地之前，你知道這些是甚麼店嗎？你有停下來看看它嗎？捍衛，是捍衛你不得不附和的群眾心理？從來不在乎它，但現在要捍衛它，只為大家都說民族大義，中華文化不可滅？是這樣嗎？還是其實你明白為什麼，只是，難以啟齒？

我真的很多問號。我越來越不明白客觀為何物。只有你快要失去的東西，從來都不是你珍惜的東西。

對。說得直接一點，錢作怪。我的話是很難聽，很直接。但是，誰敢否認？如果賠償金是現在的幾倍十倍，你說呢？這世界上真有那麼多聖人嗎？

再說，那些是私人產業和樓宇。買賣自理。如果業主滿意賠償賣掉，那麼捍衛者需要不需要對業主高喊捍衛古跡？這個問題實在很有辯論點。

。。。。

Chia Chin Yau

其实影响最大的，是那些住了几十年的老租户。不管有无赔偿，他们都得不到，而要有能力搬，早搬了。

大米

那些租戶有人替他們申請政府廉價祖屋之類的嗎？

Chia Chin Yau

没听有人提

大米

所以嘛。。。業主要錢，華團要臉面，發展者要商機，政府要擠壓權勢油水，我們捍衛正義的要「正義良心」，租戶嘛。。。我是租戶，我會說：你們這班仆街，全部去死吧。

今天我是怎麼了。。。。唉。火氣很大。

還有一個我很氣憤的重點是：平時大家已經很久不愛這個地方，很久不來光顧這帶的店了，並常說那是遊客才會到的地方（香港朋友，這地方就是你們口中的唐人街的部分，遊客來都會到的地方），然後現在怎麼一夜之間，大家都對它有感情起來了。實在矛盾。

楊匡 你看完這些看法，作為外國人，並熱衷參加社會運動的你，你的第一看法和感覺是甚麼？如果在香港，你們會怎麼處理這樣的問題？

楊匡

我對那邊不熟悉，也難說上半句。我個人對社會發展引起的徵地問題，一般從幾個方面去看：古蹟，這個當然會有很多複雜的因素；2. 從最底層看受影響人士，看他們生活會否受搬遷拖累而變得更差；3. 最嚴重受影響的人；4. 新工程對環境影響。其次考慮諸如集體回憶、日後交通等等，這點及早爭取政府才會承諾新工程加入一些補救措施。

所以可能首先以反對態度思考，是有好處的，但不應該是為反對而反對。

不一定全面，但從最底層和最受影響的人去考慮，社會發展才有意義，才不會撇下一些人了。

暈……那邊看了一下，連商機也提及了……這個只是商業考慮，提早評估商機，令很多人存炒家心態，事情會更加變得不講道理了。

大米, 「苏丹街附近将会起100 层高楼」成為「保存蘇丹街運動」的其中一個重點……這樣理解不完全，但……

大米

是的，整個事情很亂水。捍衛古跡的一群民眾，只是很單純的捍衛古跡，說得也不過是要保留回憶之類的比較浪漫主義的話，並沒有仔細研究裡面千絲萬縷的利益關係。嚴格來說，民眾都是被動地被利用的一群人。

大米

再者，我們的政府大概沒有你們香港政府那樣會考慮民眾意見，這些事件上，等我們出來捍衛的時候，事件已經是癌症末期了。捍衛，只是讓自己心裡好過一些。這個徵地，已經是勢在必行了。明年的新年，這些老店就沒有了。如果你今年內來馬來西亞遊玩，我帶你去走走看看這片地方吧。

嗯，你上面說到一半還沒有說完。100大樓怎麼了？

楊匡

哈哈哈哈哈……像香港的舊機場，反對拆的人很久就開始以蚊子的聲音反對，要到了剩下不到三個月才有人站出來，然後大眾一窩蜂的出來…很快，最多人做的，是拍幾張照片留念……根本不是在保育。

‎100層的大樓、車站、建築群把該區變成繁盛商業區，這正好是之前看到的商機，保留了的舊店就馬上超值了。

大米

嗯，你這麼一說，找到人性的共同點了。全世界都一樣。

楊匡

暫時要爭取的，我只看到的是要盡力幫助那些窮租戶。

Chia Chin Yau

要被拆的，总得要个彩；没被拆的，等于中彩票；可是那些没地方去、没人理的租户，就比不上“古迹”和“发展”？他们可是活生生、有血有肉的人啊！到了今天，保卫古迹的、捍卫文化遗产的、支持发展的，通通都理直气壮，中气十足，偏偏就没人愿意了解租户的需要。

厉害的，大家喊得震天响：“保卫文化遗产”！整整十年，当政府没有把苏丹街列为遗产时，社团发发文稿遗憾上上报，你我读了新闻也没感觉，可是现在？

亡羊补牢，的确还不晚，可是，我为何要因为我的吉隆坡旧市区的回忆，而要别人活在我的回忆中？

当地居民应该决定要怎么做，我们也应该尊重他们的决定。而不是一昧的“保护文化遗产”，不管他人死活

大米

我還是那句，假如我是業主，知道那邊發展也是得個吉，然後我的家人也不想再拿那店來幹甚麼了。ok，現在有人要買了，我決定賣，然後，會不會有一大群正義分子跑來我的老店門前說，古跡古跡不可賣！我他媽的這是你那門子的古跡？這是我祖傳下來的老屋，為甚麼你不准我賣？我不賣，然後又沒有發展動力，留下來生塵給你緬懷童年？

苏丹街之夜

在面书问这个问题，意犹未尽，在这里重贴。

另一个欠打的问题：今晚到苏丹街的，为什么而来？

追星
嘉年华
保卫古迹
闲来无事
听说会很热闹
反正没来过，姑且来看看
什么？我只是来买老翻
饿了，来找点吃的
听说反政府，我是民联死忠，一定到！
走走看看拍拍照
听说阿jib嫂会来
看大宝森节游行
看美女俊男
走错路
睡不下













































































































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Superman Prime Minister

Sometime I am just wondering, are we underpaying our honorable Prime Minister?

When we are not happy with something, we want to meet the Prime Minister, we want him to solve our problem. Whether the problem is as big as declaring war, or as small as no one clean up rubbish, the Prime Minister is the ONE person that worth our attention.

Saiful met the Prime Minister after being "Sodomized" instead of lodging a police report (it turns out Saiful is seeking advise from the Prime Minister, if you take whatever the Prime Minister said).

When contractors screwed up Selangor state government by not clearing up rubbish, the Prime Minister then said if BN win the state, the rubbish issue will go with PR.

What does all these mean? It means that the entire Malaysia government is run by the Prime Minister himself, and he is the only one seen working. All other ministers, deputy ministers, government officers are just for fun, Only the Prime minister is working.

From being advisor to Saiful, to flood problem in Sibu during the Sarawak state election, to rubbish issue, hawkers' issue in Selangor, he is the ONE who call the shots, he is the one who execute, and he is the one who actually do the dirty job.

Why not we suggest to the Prime Minister that he takes all salaries, perks, whatever benefits given to ministers down to cleaning workers in the entire Malaysia government?

We need only 1 Government employee, no extra.

Why not?

This is our country

This is a beutiful country, with everything upside down.

Someone aka Lynas failed to build a plant at home for whatever reason, then they come here to tell us they are giving us heaven on earth.

Someone who wanted to transform this country's democracy for his own version of "better democracy" ended with water cannon and tear gas somehow sneak into hospital to help cleaning up car park wall and chase away mosquito;

Someone who claimed adhere to the laws now say someone will temporary be PM until his gang bend the laws to get him out of jail and become PM;

Someone who shouted, fight, rally to end corruption, only if corruption practice by BN not themselves;

Someone who defend freedom of speech til his death only if The speech is what they wanted to hear;

Someone who in the first place disgrace himself allowing his face be hang on a flag post until a brave soul took it down, ended up with criminal charge of humiliating that someone;

Someone who claimed never overspend because all spending are within budget that have forgotten the budgeted figures are real figure plus a couple of zeros at the back;

Someone who claimed his boys are all well behave that whoever injured themselves are self inflicted;

So this is our country, our beautiful country.

So you think you are saving Anwar, or you just wanted to save yourself?

it is a pity if you who forge for better Malaysia see that no one other than Anwar will make your dream come true.

Isn't this what UMNO wanted? The more you depend on Anwar, the more UMNO wanted him at all cost.

By doing so, you think you save Anwar therefore save you, but you have not realize, you have in fact getting Anwar killed because of you, and killing your dream for doing so.

If you move past Anwar, you will save him, and save yourself.

For UMNO have no prime target to hit, and you are all over.

You are the one who make the history, don't hide behind Anwar making him a visible target for UMNO to do all they can on him, even if he is willing.

first day of 2012

Two incidents happened in the first day of 2012, first: student protesting AUKU in front of UPSI; second: RPK's latest interview on NST.

Don't get me wrong, I do not change my mind, neither do I abandon my belief forging for better Malaysia.

I am reading comments from all over the cyberspace, here's what I get:

Almost everyone criticizing the Police for its excessive force trying to disperse students in protest.

As usual, immediately in my mind that the Police has over-reacted in this case, and I think I need to express my concern, thus, I called the Tanjung Malim Police Station to tell the officer that I am not happy with the way police handle the students.

Yes, the officer told me their version of the story, but I keep insisting there must be a better way to resort the matter instead of using force.

OK, you probably think this is over. Not yet. I then searched for videos of the incident, watch carefully, and I noticed that the Police is giving the protesters 15 minutes to disperse. During the time, some students climbing the main gate, and the fence of UPSI, I can hear clearly that these students shouting to people inside the UPSI compound, asking them to open the gate, and call them "anjing" (dogs).

Hey! I told myself, isn't the student protesting AUKU? What is the significant of climbing the fence and gate? What is the significant of UPSI staff being called "dogs" and required to open their door for the students?

My stand is clear. The students want a revolution, please declare, I have no problem. If the students wanted a protest and building pressure from public sympathy, then why have to act as if they are just like UMNO's tugs?

As for RPK. Many accused, even claimed that RPK turncoat, traitor, whatever. One PKR member even threaten to expose RPK daughter's illicit photos.

Have RPK done anything wrong expressing his view? You may disagree with him, just like I disagree with him that Malaysia cannot have Tahrir Square because Chinese are afraid. If so, why not debate the issue of your disagreement instead of resorting to threatening or smearing him?

Isn't all of you "Freedom Fighters" claimed you are better than UMNO in one way or another? But why do you need to resort to UMNO's tactics of smearing/threatening, or whatever tactics that you accused your enemy did to you on RPK?

Why can't you be like Haris Ibrahim, state your point, it is done, case closed.

I would probably get killed by you people if you know what I've told Anwar in Jun 2008.

I told him: Datuk Seri, in my opinion you better die in jail, then the country will tear UMNO down.

Yes, exact words, so I am too, turncoat, traitor, whatever.....

What a pity!